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 Posted: Mon Jun 16th, 2008 03:33 am
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http://www.geocities.com/blue_fusion20/previews.htm

I can't afford Stuart Kaplan's Encyclopaedia of Tarot set, so I started making my own. lol!!! Actually, I tried gathering projects I started last year and earlier and see which ones I can still continue. Plus, actually, the pc-less months - well yes, they were depressing but for some reason it also was a very fertile time to generate art. But I got really scared cuz, well, some artists ended up in assylums in the past!

Anyway, most of the art featured were done during that pc-less period. And thanks to you guys, I can now colour them. :) The Marcelino's actually finished, and the Huramentado's 75% done (well at least the line art). For some reason, the inspiration extended to playing card designs as well.
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Here's the reservation list for the art noveau deck so far:



1. Gregory
2. Aerin
3. and 4. Jann
5. Truelight
6. Rwcarter
7. Manda
8. Chronata
9. Conversus
10. Karenquilter
11. Quarkling
12. Ahclem/Papoon
13. Alta
14. Netzach
15 and 16. Jann (2 copies)
17. Conversus
18. Sientara
19. Divinemsm
20. Jenna
21. Iceclone
22. Faerieluca
23. Adam McLean
24. Skad1
25. greycats

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Ly! I fell off my chair four images into that page! Amazing that you can work on so many different styles at once - and they're all different, stunning and original too. Must start saving up...

BlueToy wrote:
Plus, actually, the pc-less months - well yes, they were depressing but for some reason it also was a very fertile time to generate art. 
PCs are a double-edged sword when it comes to art (and maybe other stuff too). They enable and disable - perhaps I should get away from mine more. I'm glad that so many good things came out of that and that the scary time is past. Looking forward to seeing more. 

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Wow, they are gorgeous!!! I want them all!!! :cl

But seriously, I do hope you continue with all of them and that they will be published or printed in some way. I especially like the Tarot de Marcelino, Tarot Bagong Sining, Tarot of the Curious East and oh my gosh, that Shards of Light one is just wonderful! Not sure if I like the black and white or coloured more of that one. I already loved the Masque. Ah, such talent you have!

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Oh just put me on the preorder list.

For all of them.

My mother has to die sooner or later..... :? (She wants to so that isn't as awful as it sounds !)

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What I like about Ly's work is his ability to work in different styles and techniques.

So many artists nowadays seem to develop their own art style, stick to that, and then produce their work exclusively in that style. It may be instantly recognisable, but after you have seen a number of their works you can tire of the sameness.

With Ly, we are constantly surprised.

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Yes indeed. Ly's decks are all so different they would make a collection on their own. There are quite a few tarot artists who now bore me a bit (to be brutally blunt....)

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I love a chance to gather a bunch of items and sort them by gradations of what I like best. Sometimes I hate that, especially, as in this case, when it's so very hard to do. My life is so often full of doubt, second-guessing, backtracking and eating crow, too.

The ones I like best are the Huramentado, the Curious East, and the Masque examples. I think today I was attracted to the differing card shapes, to some extent.

The range of styles is amazing, bespeaking an incredibly irrepressible creative impulse.

Is the Marcelino printed from hand-drawn images, scanned in? And if so, may I ask what kind of pen(s) you used? Was there any manipulation with the computer afterward?

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Your range is awe-inspiring! Most artists have a recognizable style and you appear to have many. WoW. 

I want them all ... no suprise there.. I shall end my days living in a tarot poorhouse 

 

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absolutely beautiful.  I hope to get them all when they are available.  Sooner would be even better !! (?)

The masque is so beautiful, but I love the humor in running amok! the Shards of Light b/w made me want to grab my colored markers!

The thing about artists and asylums may be true, but I have heard it said that genius and insanity are close cousins.  But think how lucky we are that van Gogh didn't have prozac!

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Thanks for the support guys. Like what I said, they wouldn't be there without your help.

I've always been drawn to variety and classification (which started with zoology and taxonomy), and I think art's become its outlet for me. And I find tarot's a wonderful place to explore it. :)

Anyway, would you people know of publishers who accept submissions for quirky-looking full 78-card decks (the Marcelino and the Huramentado)? Adam's been kind enough to be publishing one of the decks in the list in the near future, though at the moment he only does majors-only runs (I hope he does get to print full decks in the future, I mean, there are a lot of good unpublished decks out there!).


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Is the Marcelino printed from hand-drawn images, scanned in? And if so, may I ask what kind of pen(s) you used? Was there any manipulation with the computer afterward?

They were hand-drawn using a unipin technical pen on a weird (but nice) kind of typewriting paper with a plastic-y surface, which I found to be very suitable for the cheap waterproof ink I use. I just scanned a piece of Kraft cardstock and placed the drawing there digitally so it can have the feel of the final look I wanted.

There's this really cool function in the later versions of Adobe Illustrator called Livetrace. It converts line art (which don't have gradients) into cleaner drawings with more solid and consistent strokes. Plus there's the option of vectorizing the said line art. I used that on the image for a neater look.

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BlueToy wrote:

Anyway, would you people know of publishers who accept submissions for quirky-looking full 78-card decks (the Marcelino and the Huramentado)?

 

One day, maybe Fig Tree (that's yours truly) will. Looking at those images I wish I could now, right this minute...

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Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant ad infinitum.  And so prolific.  I don't think you'll go mad ... I think that it is only we slow-working wannabe's who go completely bonkers.

After seeing your range and wonder, I feel like going bungy-jumping without the bungy.  Fortunately I can't afford the air fare to New Zealand ... though it would only be one-way ... thinks!!!!!!!!!!! 

mythos - gleeful for Ly and depressed for moi

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goldenweb wrote: One day, maybe Fig Tree (that's yours truly) will. Looking at those images I wish I could now, right this minute...

Pen

I'd be very much honoured then! :) I just realized tht several members here are also involved in their own small presses (there's you and Adam and OnePotato... or is it NoePotato now?) - which is nice in that nifty quaint way, kinda reminds me of those cool letterpress associations. :D


mythos wrote: mythos - gleeful for Ly and depressed for moi

aw don't be! you certainly have a lot of talent and it's very evident in the deck you're working on!

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I love them all.   My favorites are the Untitled deck, Marcelino,Moody Lane Tarot, Curious East, Achromatic Impressions, Shards of Light , and the Masque.  They are all lovely.   :ce

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Oh, Ly... thou art truly an artist extraordinnaire!

So very versatile, and exquisitely executed, is your artistic expression that I am convinced you will go down in history as one of Tarot's Top Ten Artists, if not the Number One Artist...

As so many have stated here, usually we see an artist having developed their particular niche, and everything that comes after is a play on that niche...

But not you... You have been blessed with that rarest of qualities, Ly... the quality of a constantly expanding creative genius-- astonishing in its prolific depth of diversity, and stunning in its ability to technically consummate that bridge between vision and manifestation...

Aye... You are such a one as this, my friend... doubt it not...

I'm with gregory---> put me down for ALL of them, :ro *vvvbs* :ro

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thanks so much Fairemaiden, though i'm not sure about that number one tarot artist thing (i'd vote for a tie between pamela coleman smith and lady frieda harris) :D but i really appreciate your support.


i've uploaded some sample images of two of the decks online.

here's for the Tarot de Marcelino: http://www.geocities.com/blue_fusion20/marcelino_index.htm

and for the moody lane: http://www.geocities.com/blue_fusion20/MOODY_index.htm

i dunno, really, but tarot art's become a passion for me. i'm not sure if that's good for an artist, though...

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Ahhh...... they're just so different, witty and desirable! They make me smile. Beautifully thought out too - each a fully-formed concept - love the background stories.   

As for:   

BlueToy wrote:

i dunno, really, but tarot art's become a passion for me. i'm not sure if that's good for an artist, though...


I don't know why the heck this happens, but I'm at exactly that place too, and I suspect that we're not the only ones. Tarot seems to seep into the creative well and colour the juices indelibly tarot....

Pen

  

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BlueToy wrote: thanks so much Fairemaiden, though i'm not sure about that number one tarot artist thing (i'd vote for a tie between pamela coleman smith and lady frieda harris) :D but i really appreciate your support.


i've uploaded some sample images of two of the decks online.

here's for the Tarot de Marcelino: http://www.geocities.com/blue_fusion20/marcelino_index.htm

and for the moody lane: http://www.geocities.com/blue_fusion20/MOODY_index.htm

i dunno, really, but tarot art's become a passion for me. i'm not sure if that's good for an artist, though...


These look stunning - each have you're artist mark all over them and yet they are both very different and very very nice creations in their own right.:ro

(my personal preference goes out to the moody lane - but that's purely personal couse in creativevalue they are equal )

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thanks MrLaLuna. It's sort of a current favourite of mine at the moment as well (at least, it's the one that gets more artwork done right now).

goldenweb wrote:
I don't know why the heck this happens, but I'm at exactly that place too, and I suspect that we're not the only ones. Tarot seems to seep into the creative well and colour the juices indelibly tarot....

Pen

I guess it's because it's something of a challenge to artists? I see it as a structure within a structure sorta thing, like each individual card has its own particular theme, and then there's the general theme for the whole deck. Some people might find this very limiting. On the other hand, I find that this structure - existing even before the actual artworks' creation - facilitates in the flow of creativity. Like, given that there's a "Death theme" for the Death card, it's limiting in that it has to fit within the framework of "death" but at the same time fosters creativity in that there are so many combinations of imagery and the like which can be made to be a Death card. or maybe I'm really not making any sense. :D

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goldenweb wrote:
I don't know why the heck this happens, but I'm at exactly that place too, and I suspect that we're not the only ones. Tarot seems to seep into the creative well and colour the juices indelibly tarot....

Pen

I guess it's because it's something of a challenge to artists? I see it as a structure within a structure sorta thing, like each individual card has its own particular theme, and then there's the general theme for the whole deck. Some people might find this very limiting. On the other hand, I find that this structure - existing even before the actual artworks' creation - facilitates in the flow of creativity. Like, given that there's a "Death theme" for the Death card, it's limiting in that it has to fit within the framework of "death" but at the same time fosters creativity in that there are so many combinations of imagery and the like which can be made to be a Death card. or maybe I'm really not making any sense. :D


I've been thinking about this since your post. You're right about the challenge/structure facilitating the creative flow. But also, having gone through different artistic themes and journeys over the years, and known each time when, for me, that particular journey had come to its natural end, tarot felt like a sort of 'homecoming' to a place I barely knew even existed a year or so ago.  I think this particular journey will last me out...:D

PS... and having popped in the smiley at the end, what I really wanted more than anything else was a lovely little smiley skull...!

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lol @ smiley skull! :D Now, with Tarot as an artistic journey. hmmm. I think it has the potential to last a very long time, and take you to different directions (given the possibilities discussed in the previous posts), but really, my fear as an artist is that it might hinder me from exposing myself to other types of output. I swear, I need to control this tarot art addiction. har har

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And now, being the self-contradictory person that I am, I'm stuck in a tarot design dilemma at the moment. I've finished the Moody Lane and the Marcelino (with the Moody Lane, I'm looking into self-publishing it, while with the Marcelino, I'm looking for publishers), and I've started on colouring the art of the Nouveau deck. Firstly, it was supposed to have flat colours (all the easier to colour them). But I toyed with some images earlier today (big mistake) and well, ended up liking the results - though they take much longer to colour. I've made 2 samples in 3 styles. I'd like to ask the opinion of you guys, if that's possible. The first row's done in the flat colouring, the second one, the result of my experiments earlier. After the experiments, I realized that, colour-wise, the look of the final images veers too much away from Art Nouveau, so I tried lightening their colours (row 3). I'm still partial to row 2 at the moment, but I'm worried that it might not be Art Noveau anymore (which was my original intent).

Here's the sample images: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/necromancer151/test_nouveau.jpg

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From a purely liking point of view, I find myself attracted irresitably to the middle row over the other two. The trouble with comparing the three different trials side by side as it were, is that the eyes are drawn to the one that sings out the loudest - apart it might be a different matter. It would be interesting to bring the colour tones of the first row more in line with the second and then compare them again and see what happens. It would be good to see larger versions too - it's difficult to appreciate the detail on files this size.

I can't believe you've finished Moody Lane already...!  

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goldenweb wrote: From a purely liking point of view, I find myself attracted irresitably to the middle row over the other two. The trouble with comparing the three different trials side by side as it were, is that the eyes are drawn to the one that sings out the loudest - apart it might be a different matter. It would be interesting to bring the colour tones of the first row more in line with the second and then compare them again and see what happens. It would be good to see larger versions too - it's difficult to appreciate the detail on files this size.

I can't believe you've finished Moody Lane already...!  

Pen  


Oh, um, your pc might have resized the image for you. If you let the mouse hover over the image, (hopefully) the pointer becomes a zoom tool, so they can be shown in ideal size (each card's supposed to be 3.5 x 5.75). Regarding the colour tones, that was actually my concern. I've noticed that Nouveau tends to be pastel-y, which is why the first row has more low-sat colours. I have to confess that I'm really drawn to the middle row. I'll see, if the test prints end up not being too dark, I might have to forego with referring to it as an art nouveau deck and just use the dark colouring. :D fickle-minded me...

Regarding the Moody Lane, it was a lot easier to finish than what I expected, actually. The line art was finished months back, and the colouring wasn't too hard (what with Photoshop cheats lol) plus it's just a majors-only deck, so it doesn't take as much time to finish as a 78-card one.

ETA my current avatar's from the Moody Lane's Death card. :D

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Difficult choose there purely going on first (and second and even third impression and feeling) I too would choose the second row; it has something difficult to describe but that I could call unanimated life-force.

As for art-nouveau decks having to be more paste none of the 2 big (or best known) art nouveau decks the ones by Matt Myers or by Antonella Castelli are really pastel or even similar to that colour scheme, and still people recognize and accept them under the name art-nouveau – this on the account of feeling being more important than exact copy-cat I think…

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BlueToy wrote:

Oh, um, your pc might have resized the image for you. If you let the mouse hover over the image, (hopefully) the pointer becomes a zoom tool, so they can be shown in ideal size

 

Yes, it worked, I can see them beautifully now. I do still like the middle one best, and although Art Nouveau should arguably be flat colour, it still retains that feel. It's lovely!

Love the Moody Lane avatar too - and wish I knew about Photoshop cheats - I've never coloured anything much in Photoshop (except in the most laborious way to make slight alterations).  Must spend some time on one of those Photoshop tutorial sites - do you know a good one?       

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Mr. la-luna wrote: As for art-nouveau decks having to be more paste none of the 2 big (or best known) art nouveau decks the ones by Matt Myers or by Antonella Castelli are really pastel or even similar to that colour scheme, and still people recognize and accept them under the name art-nouveau – this on the account of feeling being more important than exact copy-cat I think…

I never thought about those decks. The myers one actually seems to have bright colours (which I like). I remember liking the Castelli deck on first glance, but got disappointed after seeing other scans of it (still love its Death card, though). I ended up buying the Secrets Tarot instead (the art of which is just pure magical).

goldenweb wrote: Love the Moody Lane avatar too - and wish I knew about Photoshop cheats - I've never coloured anything much in Photoshop (except in the most laborious way to make slight alterations).  Must spend some time on one of those Photoshop tutorial sites - do you know a good one?       


Well,  there's deviantart: http://www.deviantart.com/?order=9#catpath=resources/tutorials/digiart&order=9

I learned mine the hard way. I was made into an art editor of a school paper back in college, and I knew nothing of Photoshop then, so I ended up learning from guesswork and trial and error. :D If you have specific questions on its functions, just message me and I'll try to help you out on them. :)

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I prefer the second row. Those images immediately drew my attention. It is like they radiate light. The third row has that radiance a little bit too, but not so much. So yes, most definately second row is favorite for me. I love the feeling of light more then it being Art Nouveau.

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I go for the 2nd row too.  The others may be more "authentic", but I like the feeling of the colors.  Maybe it's a modern representation of art nouveau?  :gi

(Does anyone else miss the little smiley icons?  Sometimes these just take up too much room!  gripe--gripe--gripe )

When you get your Moody Lane ready to go, put me down on a list for a copy!  Or two, one to save and one to look at!  My policy for only the best tarots.

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skad1 wrote: When you get your Moody Lane ready to go, put me down on a list for a copy!  Or two, one to save and one to look at!  My policy for only the best tarots.


Oh wow I'm really very flattered you like the Moody Lane, especially since it's a bit... weird, in terms of art style. I've e-mailed TarotGarden about last Saturday, but I still haven't gotten any reply from them (Jeannette's probably busy). And they're the only ones who retail my deck :( I cant do the retailing myself since postage here sucks and the alternative's courier which is expensive (starts at $40!). Hopefully TG replies soon, though thanks for taking interest in it.

I guess I'll have to go with the second colouring style since everyone (including myself) who's commented so far's inclined to it. I'm attaching two other sample cards. Funnily, when I looked at the cards with an unfocused eye, I got a "tropical birds" impression. I wonder if that's a good thing...


ETA: those gender signs are there because there are separate "male" and "female" versions of each card (well, one's all-male, the other all-female), so there'll be 44 cards all in all.

Attachment: new_cards_test.jpg (Downloaded 417 times)

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BlueToy wrote:
Oh wow I'm really very flattered you like the Moody Lane, especially since it's a bit... weird, in terms of art style.


 

See, I don't think it's weird.  Not mainstream, but that's part of the reason I like it.  It is creative, original art.  And it's art, not artsy, maybe that's part of the reason I'm so attracted to it!

I see what you mean about the bird thing, especially the chariot.  Now that's what I call a meaning within a meaning.  It took me a bit to get my eyes to do the unfocused thing.  Weird, because when I get too tired they it it all bu themselves!

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skad1 wrote: See, I don't think it's weird.  Not mainstream, but that's part of the reason I like it.  It is creative, original art.  And it's art, not artsy, maybe that's part of the reason I'm so attracted to it!

I see what you mean about the bird thing, especially the chariot.  Now that's what I call a meaning within a meaning.  It took me a bit to get my eyes to do the unfocused thing.  Weird, because when I get too tired they it it all bu themselves!


Thanks so much again, especially since I'm still having issues on whether the stuff I do is valid as art (I'm self-taught, you see. So I kinda get paranoid on whether there are a lot more things I need to learn to work on my art).

As for unfocused eyes, I wonder if our bunny icons, or rabbits in general, ever get those? :D

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BlueToy wrote: Thanks so much again, especially since I'm still having issues on whether the stuff I do is valid as art (I'm self-taught, you see. So I kinda get paranoid on whether there are a lot more things I need to learn to work on my art).

As for unfocused eyes, I wonder if our bunny icons, or rabbits in general, ever get those? :D

Oh you're an artist all right, no doubt in my mind on that one.  And a good and creative one too. 

I  think the bunny icons started from an unfocused eye, otherwise their ears would have been longer!

:c  :m  :cc  :c

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Omg. I don't think I've seen that eye-less bunny before! Crazy bunnies... I don't think there's a Bunny Tarot yet. Hmmmm.... *hands start twitching*

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We talked about an automated bunny tarot, or automated tarot.  But decided the technology wasn't quite there.  Imagine your laying the Devil card down, and him flipping you the finger. :cl  :cl

I know there's a Chicken Tarot, or Kippen Tarot as she calls it.  But she's in Germany and doesn't speak English or take paypal.  It's actually the money thing that's a hurdle for me.  I really wanted one, I guess you can tell I am drawn to the ones that are willing to walk outside the line!

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skad1 wrote: We talked about an automated bunny tarot, or automated tarot.  But decided the technology wasn't quite there.  Imagine your laying the Devil card down, and him flipping you the finger. :cl  :cl

I know there's a Chicken Tarot, or Kippen Tarot as she calls it.  But she's in Germany and doesn't speak English or take paypal.  It's actually the money thing that's a hurdle for me.  I really wanted one, I guess you can tell I am drawn to the ones that are willing to walk outside the line!

So I couldn't resist googling the Kippen Tarot (I thought Haenchen's German for chicken?!) and I ended up on the deck's Tarotpedia page. Weird, it says there that the deck was done with "minimum... photo manipulation and edition techniques" but that magican-chicken looks like it has hooves! Probly one of them x-files rosswell fowls. lol

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Naw, he's just FLUFFY

(Also known as "I'm not fat, I'm fluffy" Garfield the Cat)


Wow, you mean the aliens have Chickens, too?????  We could start the latest alien conspiracy here on the Tarot collectors Forum!

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skad1 wrote: Wow, you mean the aliens have Chickens, too?????  We could start the latest alien conspiracy here on the Tarot collectors Forum!


But then we'd have to talk in deadpan monotone and not sign our contracts on the last season. :D

*this is probably the effect of my insomnia...

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Ah, those are lovely!!! I can see the "tropical bird". I think that is due to the colouring, if you don't actually look properly. But it also means that again, there is lot of light in there. Just like sunlight. I like them :ok

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I think we're all agreed on the middle row - they're truly lovely. And maybe all the best artists are self-taught - they're harder on themselves than some others (perhaps...?). I think I remember Mary El saying somewhere too, that if you do something (passionately?) enough for long enough you'll become good at it. Apologies to Marie if I've misquoted her, but it did strike me at the time of reading.  

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BlueToy wrote: skad1 wrote: We talked about an automated bunny tarot, or automated tarot.  But decided the technology wasn't quite there.  Imagine your laying the Devil card down, and him flipping you the finger. :cl  :cl

I know there's a Chicken Tarot, or Kippen Tarot as she calls it.  But she's in Germany and doesn't speak English or take paypal.  It's actually the money thing that's a hurdle for me.  I really wanted one, I guess you can tell I am drawn to the ones that are willing to walk outside the line!

So I couldn't resist googling the Kippen Tarot (I thought Haenchen's German for chicken?!) and I ended up on the deck's Tarotpedia page. Weird, it says there that the deck was done with "minimum... photo manipulation and edition techniques" but that magican-chicken looks like it has hooves! Probly one of them x-files rosswell fowls. lol


ok perhaps not really on-topic but the "Kippen Tarot" is by a dutch (not german) artist namend Tina Augustijn here is her homepage http://www.tarotadvies.nl/html/kippen_tarot.html

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goldenweb wrote: I think we're all agreed on the middle row - they're truly lovely. And maybe all the best artists are self-taught - they're harder on themselves than some others (perhaps...?). I think I remember Mary El saying somewhere too, that if you do something (passionately?) enough for long enough you'll become good at it. Apologies to Marie if I've misquoted her, but it did strike me at the time of reading. 
well, I think I can safely say that with Marie, she was born with talent. I mean, those designs are just gorgeous. :D But you might be right with artists being hard on themselves, maybe to compensate for what they perceive as lack of training on their part.

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BlueToy wrote: well, I think I can safely say that with Marie, she was born with talent. I mean, those designs are just gorgeous. 

I guess I was thinking more of the technical/co-ordination aspects of drawing and managing media, of getting the picture in the head onto the paper, making it 'real'. The image has to be present in some form first, either as a little seed of potential or semi/fully formed.  Marie's images/designs are pure magic, the product of a rare and very special imagination.

Oh, and thanks for your offer of help earlier in the thread - good to know you're  there when I'm :f with Photoshop... :D

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truelighth wrote: Ah, those are lovely!!! I can see the "tropical bird". I think that is due to the colouring, if you don't actually look properly. But it also means that again, there is lot of light in there. Just like sunlight. I like them :ok

I forgot to add that, it's ironic that there's a lot of light in the art when... the figures have shut eyes. (yes, all of them. It was originally unintentionally done but somehow stuck with the art) :D

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More sample images for that Art Nouveau deck: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/necromancer151/preview2.jpg (Nearly done with this one)

I'm also nearly done with the deck for Adam, but I'll have to ask his permission first if I can show previews of it.

Weirdly, no specific deck among the others I've done recently has been rejected by the publishers I approached. Heck, I didn't even get to the level of presenting the deck/s. Almost every one of them said after I inquired on their submissions' guidlines that either their publication schedule's full or they aren't accepting submissions at the moment. Would this be because of the current financial crisis?! (even AGM I think has done retrenchment with its staff...) So I guess this means I'll have to self-publish them again...

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How strange indeed, that you don't even get to submit anything. When your work is really wonderful.

And about the Art Nouveau images... I gotta have this deck!!!!:ce

The images are so wonderful. I love them. I sure hope you will self-publish them or get Adam to publish them or anything. Fingers crossed here.

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Thanks truelight. Though I'm sure there are more decks worthy of being published (like the Kirawan!). I'd want to release this with the Tarot de Marcelino, and I'm trying to find some compromise with self-publishing them in terms of costs (as they involve more cards, meaning, more costs). But anyway, I'm not sure when that'll be. For the meantime, here's another preview (again, hover mouse over image to zoom): http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/necromancer151/preview3.jpg

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BlueToy wrote: .... especially since I'm still having issues on whether the stuff I do is valid as art (I'm self-taught, you see. So I kinda get paranoid on whether there are a lot more things I need to learn to work on my art).

ppsssttt.. I know how you feel :hp though I would never have guess looking at your work! They're really amazing and I do envy your versatile approach to art.

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Weirdly, no specific deck among the others I've done recently has been rejected by the publishers I approached. Heck, I didn't even get to the level of presenting the deck/s. Almost every one of them said after I inquired on their submissions' guidlines that either their publication schedule's full or they aren't accepting submissions at the moment. Would this be because of the current financial crisis?! (even AGM I think has done retrenchment with its staff...) So I guess this means I'll have to self-publish them again...


I was thinking along these lines myself.

How about approaching the Asian publishers since there are some tarot decks published in Taiwan, China, Korea and Japan. Been trying to look for the publishers from this part of the world.

The annoying thing is I can't seem to find them listed online anywhere! :cc


Ash

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Cool. Didn't notice you were from Singapore. I did try asking around for publishers in Japan, but those I've asked said that you'd have to be associated with a Japanese psychic for that, or something like that. There was also this other Filipino guy in Aeclectic based in HK and designing his own deck who mentioned something about getting decks printed there - but that's for self-publishing. :( I'm a bit reluctant to look for publishers in China Taiwan and Korea since I noticed a number of pirated decks have been published there...

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BlueToy wrote: I did try asking around for publishers in Japan, but those I've asked said that you'd have to be associated with a Japanese psychic for that, or something like that. 

:gi Never heard of that one before.

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There was also this other Filipino guy in Aeclectic based in HK and designing his own deck who mentioned something about getting decks printed there - but that's for self-publishing. 

I remember Ranzel. He has this really amazing concept that looks almost unreal.


BlueToy wrote: :( I'm a bit reluctant to look for publishers in China Taiwan and Korea since I noticed a number of pirated decks have been published there...

You know I came across  this site about the Orphan Bill being passed in the USA, allowing publishers to use artworks that are "orphaned' meaning they can't locate thecreator thus giving them the rights to use, modify and copyright their modified version of the original. :ee Any idea if there's any truth to it?

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