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 Posted: Mon Jun 15th, 2020 02:38 pm
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https://www.groveandgrotto.com/blogs/articles/how-to-spot-a-fake-tarot-deck-and-why-you-should-care

It's REALLY important - quite a few creators are giving up because they can't take it any more.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 16th, 2020 08:26 pm
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Thanks, Gregory. Definitely worth the read and anyone seriously interested in collecting should be aware that supporting crooks means depriving genuine artists and publishers of their income.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 16th, 2020 08:36 pm
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Ciro has said he's giving up on creation, as it's a waste of his time.

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Thanks Gregory. If I buy a fake tarot I feel cheated. The advises on the website are very good, unfortunately some of the things to look for can't be seen in advance, only when I get the deck. But still is useful. At least I'll pay more attention in the future when ordering a deck.
(are you familiar with the feeling: you see a deck and get excited about it - well I push the "buy it" so fast that I am literary checking what is that I bought only after I bought it! - well that has to change)

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Yes I know what you mean - but I do usually look in case it's crap ! :cl

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There is a move on Facebook and on Cult of Tarot to campaign against this.


Worth checking out

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Great article, thanks for sharing. Unfortunately some people just don't care.

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I can't imagine buying a "fake deck" with intent. Sorry to see this is what is going on.

Last edited on Mon Jan 25th, 2021 08:36 pm by TCO

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A post copied from another forum, to add to how damaging this all is: (NB this is not my post; I do not buy shoes of that calibre...)

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This is an interesting article from almost five years ago. It's about shoes, but it's relevant here:

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/20/birkenstock-quits-amazon-in-us-after-counterfeit-surge.html

Basically, Birkenstock no longer sells on amazon, nor do they authorize sales. You can still find Birkenstock shoes on amazon, but they might be poor quality fakes, there is no Birkenstock store on amazon, and no sales there are authorized by Birkenstock.

The reason for this is piracy:

"Earlier this month, CNBC.com reported on the scores of legitimate sellers that are hurting because fraudsters are knocking off their products and utilizing tactics such as paying for reviews, jumping into their listings and taking advantage of loopholes in Amazon’s logistics system. For example, Amazon commingles inventory from distributors at its fulfillment centers, so authentic products and fakes can get mixed together.

The story included reference to Birkenstock, which has seen legions of Chinese sellers promoting its flagship Arizona sandal for $79.99, or $20 below the (2016) retail price."

The interesting thing in all of this is that pulling out of amazon actually increased consumer confidence and sales. People became MORE likely to just go straight to the Birkenstock website or an authorized dealer, because they knew the company was ethical. On the rare occasions that I need a new pair of Birks (they wear like iron) I do this. I used to look around for other sellers with old stock, hoping for a lower price. But the possibility of getting stuck with shoddy pirated shoes is a risk I'm not willing to take. And I like integrity, I want to support that.

So - what if Llewellyn closed their amazon store? What if Lo Scarabeo and US Games stopped authorizing sales there? It wouldn't hurt them!


We can only do so much as consumers: not buy pirated decks, and try to educate people. So far, this has not put a dent in the problem. But if we could get the big publishers on board, it might actually help.

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Be aware that Tarocco Studio has sold some decks with a QR code.


Any more I only buy direct from the creator (mostly on KickStarters), or direct from the publishing house.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 12th, 2021 11:07 am
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Oh rats....

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selkie wrote:
Be aware that Tarocco Studio has sold some decks with a QR code.


Any more I only buy direct from the creator (mostly on KickStarters), or direact from the publishing house.
gregory wrote:
Oh rats....

I don't understand the problem then... "with" a QR code, isn't this the point? Or am I confusing barcode with QR code. Or did you mean to say "without"?

Last edited on Tue Apr 13th, 2021 09:16 am by Reece

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Oh. Good point....

That would be good, as I have rather liked tarocco... That said, I seem to recall that anyone can create a QR code on line..

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I googled "products with a QR code". It seems to be a method of tracking payments, sometimes though PayPal.

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