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 Posted: Tue Jan 15th, 2008 07:31 am
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goldenweb
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debra wrote:

To me, those Hokasai-ish bunny rabbits are akin to the moustache on the Mona Lisa.  Both work only because we've seen copies of the originals a gazillion times.


 

I think the bunnies would work even without the original - they're just more delicious if one knows it well. The idea of bunnies as/in the foam (as opposed to white horses in other paintings) is such a lateral step in thinking. And of course the way the bunnies are drawn is so in tune with the Hokusai woodcut style/technique. The artists have shown love and created something original with a  respectful bow to the master too. The Mona Lisa moustache picure is simply a joke with respect nowhere to be seen.


 

IF I were an artist and could make images in this manner, here's what my Fool would look like. But I'm not an artist, and so-and-so the dead fellow was, so here's a cut from his image and I'll put the title on it.
     

 

True, I think. And in a way some sort of cut/selection lifts the finished card into a new category. To simply take a painting of Circe by Waterhouse and call it Temperance is lazy beyond belief.  

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 Posted: Tue Jan 15th, 2008 09:49 am
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gregory wrote: Which ties in with what Jason said about his idea for a Klee TAROT being copyrightable....


The difference between Klee and Hokusai is that Klee died in 1940, less than 70 years ago. His artwork will still be the copyright of the Klee estate. Hokusai's work is out of copyright. Paul Klee's will be in just a few years time.

Also one cannot copyright a title such as the 'Klee Tarot'. The Klee Estate could register this as a trademark, but no one else could without legal challenge. No one has been able to register the term 'Celtic Tarot' as exclusively belonging to them, and no one ever could.

You cannot copyright an IDEA.  You can only copyright an actual work.

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 Posted: Tue Jan 15th, 2008 06:28 pm
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This goes to show that the legal, artistic and ethical dimensions are hard to untangle. 

Maybe it does go back to "intention."  I have a completely different response to the Aubrey Beardsley tarot, for example.  Why? Because it shows more care and effort, and because I have a sense of the intention of the person who did it and an affinity for that intention--it does seem intended as a genuine tribute. 

Consistency is a virtue (on those "what tarot card are you? quizzes I'm always Justice) but heck. 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 15th, 2008 09:01 pm
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debra wrote: This goes to show that the legal, artistic and ethical dimensions are hard to untangle. 

Maybe it does go back to "intention."  I have a completely different response to the Aubrey Beardsley tarot, for example.  Why? Because it shows more care and effort, and because I have a sense of the intention of the person who did it and an affinity for that intention--it does seem intended as a genuine tribute. 

Consistency is a virtue (on those "what tarot card are you? quizzes I'm always Justice) but heck. 
Well in fairness to everyone around here, Jason Lang is passionate about art and so is his partner.....

(confession: I know them, in case anyone here did not know this !)

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