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 Posted: Tue Dec 6th, 2011 09:42 am
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AdamMcLean
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I cannot be the only one who was astounded when seeing illustrations of some black and white images of Tarot designs in Decker and Dummett's History of the Occult Tarot.

These designs were created by Wilfrid Pippett and J.B. Trinick around 1921-23 in collaboration with A.E. Waite. This may have been intended for use within Waite's Rosicrucian inspired order.

Shortly after the book was released, I tried to find the sources for these images, hoping to find a complete set and perhaps even issue it in my Art Tarot series. I was not successful in these endeavours.

So I was delighted to hear, earlier this year, that Marcus Katz had discovered almost a complete set of coloured images of these designs. Then his colleague Tali Goodwin managed to discover the originals drawings and some prints based on these. Thus they now had a complete set of the designs over three formats.

Marcus and Tali have now published these in a large format book, Abiding in the Sanctuary: The Waite-Trinick Tarot. A Christian Mystical Tarot (1917-23) .

In this each of the pieces is reproduced full page, and they provide interpretative material as well as the historical background to the cards and their creators.

This book is available through Blurb.Com. The print quality is excellent. I see these images as one of the earliest of the art tarots. It is wonderful that a full set of the desgins has survived and that Katz and Goodwin have been able to make these available to us. The book can be bought from

http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/2702755

where you can see a preview.

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 Posted: Thu Dec 22nd, 2011 09:49 am
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I'll be interested to see if it comes out as a deck at some point, looks very interesting.

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 Posted: Thu Dec 22nd, 2011 10:02 am
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I think they've already said it won't. There are licensing issues for the images - that's why they are only printing 250 copies of the book. Which I too have, and although there are a few typos, not least in Tali's name on the cover, :ww, it is well worth having.

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 Posted: Fri Dec 23rd, 2011 02:42 pm
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My friend received the book as a gift and says it is half filler - said he would have been very angry had he paid for it ... I will see it today as I have to drop by at his home. Will report back with the first hand

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 Posted: Fri Dec 23rd, 2011 04:47 pm
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The plates are lovely but start at like page 80 - the font is so big it reminds me of when I used to triple space in school to try and make a paper long enough LOL. And with that there are any number of half filled or third filled pages with the descriptions - which additionally has spaces for 'contemplative themes' some of which are left blank! It is amazing that since these were supposedly created to meditate with they cannot come up with anything for the Magician and Strength (those are the blank ones) - the contemplative theme for Justice is Justice LOL .

I wonder if they give refunds.

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 Posted: Fri Dec 30th, 2011 08:05 am
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Nicole

As Tali responded over at AT, more information is now on Tali's Blog and on the associated website:

http://www.waitetrinicktarot.com ...

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Nicole

We are glad you got to see a copy of our research work and the result of the sponsor contributions and our own investment into the project. The feedback to date has been positive and our website for the book contains such independent responses as "Awesome. Transcendental. Mind boggling. Exquisite. Beautiful. Thought provoking. Enlightening ..." which come from our Facebook group.

I have received several telephone calls to give positive feedback also, so we are pleased to say no-one has requested a refund.

The font is the standard size for that type of book and we actually cut some textual material out of the book in editing to ensure it ran to the right size.

There is an online erratum for the book, with a page reference which was missed and a few minor typos. This includes the two missing contemplative themes:

http://www.waitetrinicktarot.com

The book sold over half the copies in the first three days and looks likely to sell out within the next 3-4 weeks at the present rate of sales.

We have another major historic research project into 2012 and we will note your issue with the font and bear that in mind if appropriate.

TaliTarot

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We have a large single order for some of the remaining copies coming in, which if it does - next week we think - means we will indeed only have a few books remaining and at present sales will certainly sell out by the end of January, which means all 250 licensed copies will have sold in just two months.

We'll review the project again in a few months, and in the light of ongoing research which has filled in even more background information. As we note, this project is a live piece of historic research.

The few minor typos (and the name on the cover typo) are very annoying to us, and in part came from adding and editing in the publication system at the last minute, which didn't even have a spell-checker! This was a price we paid for using a system geared for "photo books" (and subsequent high quality) rather than academic text (i.e. it didn't allow us to do footnotes which we would have liked). Again, if we come to revise the work for another (paperback/trade) edition later, we'll have opportunity to nail those down.

Our main intent here was to get the images awakened after a century of sleep.

Marcus

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 Posted: Fri Jan 6th, 2012 03:57 pm
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Several of the Waite-Trinick-Tarot images  are  available for viewing on the British Museum website

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 Posted: Fri Jan 6th, 2012 10:39 pm
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Yes - as a direct result of this project for which they were photographed.

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 Posted: Sat Apr 21st, 2012 11:46 am
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So for those that have the book, is it as history making as it is made out to be? Searching around there is very little talk about it on any tarot site. I wonder why that it is?

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 Posted: Sat Apr 21st, 2012 05:47 pm
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It surely is important in at least two ways.

1. It is amongst the earliest of Art Tarots, that is, one that relied on the artist's vision and style rather than being a derived variation of the traditional tarot designs of that time. Nowadays we are used to Art Tarots, but this was one of the earliest.

2. It reveals A.E. Waite's movement away from the Golden Dawn Magical idea set, based to a great extent on the Kabbalah, towards his own mystical system that he pursued in his own Order.

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 Posted: Thu Apr 26th, 2012 12:22 am
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While it does ass some interesting footnotes to tarot history does it really add much to the body of it? It just seems that the majority of the tarot community is just not afire with this.
I find the images interesting if slightly...bland... I hope that a better book does address the FULL 32 images some day.

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