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 Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 09:54 pm
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i thought while i am here, trying to ferret out one deck, i might show some cards i drew when i was a teenager.  i'm not much of a collector, but someone gave me a ryder deck when i was in middle school, along with a book on how to read them, so i would from time to time give my friends readings.  i have always been interested in the symbolism in tarot cards, but my own 'collection' is pretty small, especially stacked against some of the impressive collections here.  anyway, here are some of the earliest, these are from around age sixteen or so (i'm 38 now).













here is one i drew some years ago.....i am (still) trying to indy publish a comic book called 'agnbuny' and i did a tarot-inspired portrait of the bunny for a friend of mine as a birthday card....leading to a series of agnbuny 'attitudes,' my girlfriend calls them; two of which are my avatar.  sorry i tend to scan crooked.

the bunny:






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 Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 04:34 am
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thanks for sharing :)

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 Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 07:14 am
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Wow - these are powerful and work really well. How many did you create? It's easily recognisable as Coleman Smith inspired, yet has a completely different feel. You might think about completing this tarot if your style hasn't altered too much. And even if it has, you should still consider it...

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goldenweb wrote: Wow - these are powerful and work really well. How many did you create? It's easily recognisable as Coleman Smith inspired, yet has a completely different feel. You might think about completing this tarot if your style hasn't altered too much. And even if it has, you should still consider it...

Pen  


fortunately, my style's gotten lots better since then, but it is the same sort of pen work.  i have a few more that are incomplete, but i'd love to get started on another deck, and actually finish it.  i'd have no idea how to publish it, but having it finished i guess is the first step.......


edted to include a border that i thought might be cool for a certain type of deck.



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Agonistes wrote:

...but having it finished i guess is the first step.......


edted to include a border that i thought might be cool for a certain type of deck.





Definitely finish it first...! There are a few options re. publishing - and always self-publishing to consider (hard work but very satisfying, and no one telling you what to create...)

It's certainly a cool border, but the size of it makes me worry about it taking over from the artwork - always the most important thing for me...:cool:

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goldenweb wrote: Agonistes wrote:

...but having it finished i guess is the first step.......


edted to include a border that i thought might be cool for a certain type of deck.





Definitely finish it first...! There are a few options re. publishing - and always self-publishing to consider (hard work but very satisfying, and no one telling you what to create...)

It's certainly a cool border, but the size of it makes me worry about it taking over from the artwork - always the most important thing for me...:cool:

Pen   

i agree; i thought it might only suffice for the suits if they are just represented by the suit itself and number of icons; like some decks i have seen, or like playing cards.  then a smaller border for the higher arcana cards.  but, it does take up a lot of space, especially when you imagine it reduced somewhat.

i'd rather self-publish when at all possible.  i don't mind the work; i do better and faster work when i feel like i'm drawing what i want to draw, and i am used to self-promoting when possible, from years and years of tattooing.  i have always had an attraction to tarot cards; i just never realized there were so many different published kinds, with such various interpretations.  i've been reading a lot on the subject since joining this board and now feel a little urgent about doing my own deck.

little did i know my roommate is a collector.  she saw me flipping through the board with my laptop last night, which precipitated me getting out the deck i had scanned, and looking at it.  she brought out some twelve decks of her own, her favorite ones, and i got a look at some pretty amazing cards, among them the goddess tarot and a deck very similar in look and style to my old ryder deck.  she also has a russian deck with an unbelievable border.  i'll have to remember some of the names, but i now lust for a copy of the russian deck.

i also learned quite a bit about the eurpoean origins of the tarot and its use and how it's been banned a time or several.

i just knew i'd become assimilated.  : )

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Agonistes wrote:
i just knew i'd become assimilated.  : )



Trouble is, being assimilated here is hard on the bank account - must-have tarot finds are popping up all the time.

It's a pity you didn't get here earlier - it would have been great if you could have created a card for our second collaborative deck, but they've all been taken now. Maybe next year...

Pen   


Edited to add: Your wide border would be great if you drew pip cards instead of pictures for the minor arcana - you could use the smaller internal one alone for the major. 

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i noticed the thread on the collaborative deck.  i didn't finish reading it yet but i figured that was done...but i'd be happy to contribute next time.

i also like the pen tarot.

pip cards....that's what i meant by just the icons; didn't know they were called 'pips' till today....

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 Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 09:37 pm
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Agonistes wrote: i noticed the thread on the collaborative deck.  i didn't finish reading it yet but i figured that was done...but i'd be happy to contribute next time.

i also like the pen tarot.

pip cards....that's what i meant by just the icons; didn't know they were called 'pips' till today....


That'd be great - will look forward to next time.

Glad you like the Pen too.

Re. the pips (and all sorts of other tarot info.) this forum is a brilliant resource to learn lots. 

Have you a website featuring your tattoos? I'd love to see some - it'd be good if you could post a link. 

Pen 

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i have learnt a ton already, just from reading this forum.  and i love that yall post pictures like crazy as well.



my facebook is:  http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/Agonistes?ref=profile

and my myspace is:  http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=77524224



both of them have a ton of tattoo photos on them, the myspace having many more.  i friend everybody, so if for some reason you can't view them, send a request and i'll get it approved for you within a day.



i have a lot of drawings and some cartoons on my flickr page at:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/10144204@N08/


i hope these links work.  if there are any problems with them let me know and i'll try to email them or something; i don't know how to post them with the blue letters you just click on.....

also in my profile here is a link to my new blog which i almost never update.  : )

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Thanks for posting the links .. I enjoyed the pic.s on the flickr link .. The bunny theme is  great !!! You've got all the art you need to do a deck ...

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...except the ability to photoshop.  tonight i am drawing some cups, pentacle, and wand and sword drawings so a friend of mine can photoshop them into the border.  the inside border i'm taking out and going to line the major arcana cards with, and i'll have my first deck, digitally.

then i shall figure out the arduous process of printing.  then i'll sign and distribute to the teeming masses who demand them!  woo-hah!  published twice in one year!

i've got about five decks in mind to make.  is there a black and gray deck out there?  i love painting with no color.  and i want to do a horror deck, but i am sure there are several.  and i want to do one all women, but the goddess tarot already did....

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...and thank you for the compliments.  : )

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Fantastic art - really enjoyed the detail on the flickr link. Looking forward to seeing your finished tarot...

Pen 

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the lovers, before being inked and bordered:


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Golly, powerful stuff Agonistes - with both a comic strip and a tattoo feel about it. It'll be fascinating to watch this tarot emerge...

Pen :ro     

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i like them better this way.





i cant decide what arcana card to make this guy but he has to go in.





and, i drew pips!






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Loved the scans!  Definitely the bunny, and the 'here be dragons'. 

Some had the same humorous feel that Michael Kutzer's has in his animal series.  Check out http://www.tarotgarden.com/ 


The only thing I don't like is that your avatar is really too small to see.

I'm glad you're interested in participating the next collaborative deck.  Although Gregory will say "NEXT????"  I have gone to quite a few printers here locally in Dallas and hopefully I might find one that is willing to work with smaller run editions.

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heh--i tried to upload an avatar that slowly fades from image to image in that little group of drawings, but you can see them all on my flickr page.  i'm not sure where i got that 'list of attributes' from; i think it was a victorian cartoon that had attitudes drawn out in a series.  but, the avatar was too big to use on this site.  i use it on my myspace, though...but it's still pretty small.  i actually should re-scan them all because i've added backgrounds to most of them, but they wouldn't make good avatars because the background would be tiny.


i'm testing a good friendship with the photoshopping, but fortunately it's all cut and paste.  my friend looked stricken until i explained he wouldn't actually have to draw anything with his computer.

and actually, i have a question......does anyone think it's better to calligraph one's own numbers and names, or use a font?  i want to draw them, but i want them to be readable, AND groovy, but i don't want to get into a copyright problem in case i can pull off a sellable deck with this first go-round...which it is looking like i totally can, i've been researching.

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Agonistes wrote:
and actually, i have a question......does anyone think it's better to calligraph one's own numbers and names, or use a font?  i want to draw them, but i want them to be readable, AND groovy, but i don't want to get into a copyright problem in case i can pull off a sellable deck with this first go-round...which it is looking like i totally can, i've been researching.


As a tattoo artist your calligraphy would be professional - go for it!

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Agonistes wrote:
i thought while i am here, trying to ferret out one deck, i might show some cards i drew when i was a teenager.  i'm not much of a collector, but someone gave me a ryder deck when i was in middle school, along with a book on how to read them, so i would from time to time give my friends readings.  i have always been interested in the symbolism in tarot cards, but my own 'collection' is pretty small, especially stacked against some of the impressive collections here.  anyway, here are some of the earliest, these are from around age sixteen or so (i'm 38 now).




wow... love!









here is one i drew some years ago.....i am (still) trying to indy publish a comic book called 'agnbuny' and i did a tarot-inspired portrait of the bunny for a friend of mine as a birthday card....leading to a series of agnbuny 'attitudes,' my girlfriend calls them; two of which are my avatar.  sorry i tend to scan crooked.

the bunny:






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Agonistes wrote: i thought while i am here, trying to ferret out one deck, ...


The Ferret Tarot?  www(dot)falconsmew(dot)com

They also have the Chat du Marseille if you're into cats.  If you are into cats, their catnip is powerful stuff.  I didn't have to give my cats any for awhile because they loved the box it came in!

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Super cool stuff...  I really like your style. The artwork would convert well into tattoos too imo.

Agonistes wrote: i've got about five decks in mind to make.  is there a black and gray deck out there?  i love painting with no color.  and i want to do a horror deck, but i am sure there are several.  and i want to do one all women, but the goddess tarot already did....

Tarot Noir, Pen Tarot, Hermatic, Light and Shadow are all awesome B&W decks. 

Can't wait to see more of your artwork. The imagery is strong and bold.. just like your penwork. :ro

 

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wow, it's been awhile.  i am still working on this deck, although i have run into delays because i got a job, and it's hard to motivate the computer guy, even with tattoos.  : )

i'm actually looking for advice, because i have volunteered and been chosen out of literally four times the artists needed to do a full deck to do the knight of swords for a tarot deck.


i'm not sure if anyone on this board has heard of amanda palmer, an indy musician and formerly half of a band called the dresden dolls.  her style is sort of 'victorian of the doomed' and she decribes her own music as 'brechtian punk cabaret.'  anyway, her people are doing a collaborative fan art tarot deck for sale on her website (i suggested a tarot deck on a forum, and the singer herself answered my post and said it had come up but never taken place, and lo and behold, now they're doing it.  i flatter myself i am a catalyst), and well.........i need ideas. 

it has to reflect her music somewhat, or at least be in jibe with the latest album, titled 'who killed amanda palmer.'  yeah, i know......doesn't make a lot of sense.  the due date is october the first, so i am crunching for ideas, but i thought i would throw it out there, and see.  my initial thought was to do a tattoo of whatever i design on someone and let my photograph of the tattoo be the card, but i am not sure that would fit with the rest of the deck, or whether or not i would have time to ask and be answered, since the person coordinating it all is pretty busy.

just throwing it out there.  you never know when you will come across a fan of what.  it's going to be a really cool deck, though; there are some amazing artists on that fan forum.

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Ah I liked the Dresden Dolls. 

Could it be a Coin-Operated Knight?  (Or is that the Page of Coins?)

Just a thought.

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made it an astronaut, because she has a song called 'the astronaut.'



it's not the best of scans.



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the knight of swords had frequently come up when performing a reading of the cards for my self.  i thought that was a good rationale for asking to do this one.

a knight stands in the clouds (he is an astronaut, as inspired by the guy who ends up split in half in the song 'astronaut'), his sword held firmly beside him. In his right hand a scythe (in the form of a ray gun) sweeps a a path clear of opposition. with the sword the astronaut/knight introduces new ideas, and with the scythe/gun he clears the path so that these concepts can have a place to grow.

knights are traditionally assigned the element of air, so the position in the clouds is apparent, as well as the symbol for air (upward-pointing triangle with a horizontal line running through it) is apparent in the mist near his feet, and the symbols for the blade and the chalice appear on his knee armor.

the element of air is also attributed to thought/mind/ideas, so the idea is that the knight is driven by the strength of thought.

Card Meaning generator of Ideas. putting those ideas into action. having conviction in your beliefs and ideas, regardless of the opposition.  a young and impetuous, but effective man.  be prepared to defend what you stand for.  reversed: acting without thinking. building a structure, taking a stance, or 'flying in the face of science' without a strong foundation.

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