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 Posted: Sat Sep 13th, 2008 05:35 am
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Langustl
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Hi:hp!

I like to show you this. It is an old Lenormand from about 1900. I bought it from Munich. There I found an absolutely great store, selling all kinds of old cards.

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"Maker unknown. SF. 36, compl. Letterpress, 92x59 mm,
square corners. no I. Rs.: White. Lenormand deck, which
is coloured in contrast to the decks mentioned by
Hochman and Jensen. Comp. Hochman FT2 & FT3; comp.
Jensen 1.27. 1900 ca. Slightly worn"

I really love them:ok!




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 Posted: Sat Sep 13th, 2008 05:31 pm
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Wow! That's a nice-looking find, and in such great shape. So many of those old Lenormand decks you see on eBay are pretty beat up. Thanks for sharing.

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That's a very attractive deck. What do the backs look like and did it come with box or leaflet?

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 Posted: Tue Sep 16th, 2008 10:34 am
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Hi Trump Lloyd!

The backs are white, and it came without a box ore something else ;-)

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i cant view these cards and i became a member to do so?

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hardcandy wrote: i cant view these cards and i became a member to do so?

I think he must have removed the images - I can't see them either...:?

But welcome to TCF - there's lots of other interesting stuff here if you'd like to look around...:D

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 Posted: Mon Apr 13th, 2009 10:56 pm
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I just got this Lenormand deck off of ebay. It came in an old (yellowed), plain white hand-made cardboard box with penciled notes on it saying "Vieul lenormand (larusson) USA(?) 1890." I think the box was a later addition. The cards are in perfect shape although the paper may have very slightly yellowed - if so, it is uniform.

It is obviously of the same general type as Langustl's, but with the addition of this lovely colored background. BTW, same size and also plain white backs.

Anyone have any more information?

A similar style is found in various 1920s decks known "Madame Le Normands Mystic Cards of Fortune" but they tended to be monochromatic.

Could this style be a late 19th century German design from which the US decks were later copied?

Attachment: Antique Lenormand color sm.jpeg (Downloaded 106 times)

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 Posted: Sat Jun 9th, 2012 08:00 am
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Beautiful. These informations were written in combination with my cards.

Maker unknown. SF. 36, compl. Letterpress, 92x59 mm,
square corners. no I. Rs.: White. Lenormand deck, which
is coloured in contrast to the decks mentioned by
Hochman and Jensen. Comp. Hochman FT2 & FT3; comp.
Jensen 1.27. 1900 ca.

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Langustl wrote:
Comp. Hochman FT2 & FT3; comp.Jensen 1.27. 1900 ca.
I don't have the Hochman or Jensen books, but I have compared this design with earlier ones - the Spiel der Hoffnung (1798) and one almost identical to the Hoffnung cards that is from 1846 and named a Lenormand deck (possibly the first one). See deck here: http://mywingsofdesireblog.blogspot.com/2012/06/lenormand-new-identity.html

Clearly the deck that you and I have was redrawn with minor changes in most cases, but that are a few more significant changes (the Tower, for instance). Our decks appear to be identical except that mine has the light pink and blue sky/background. As mine was found in the US the dealer thought it might be US made, but until we find this style with a label, I'm afraid we won't have any specifics.

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I've discovered that both decks above are of the the type known to have been published by the Kunst-Comptoir publishing company in Berlin as early as 1854. This is the design that the Mertz Lenormand is based on. It's also the original design that was published in New York as Madam Morrow's Fortune Telling Cards - perhaps as early as 1860. In 1886 the Madam Morrow cards were even more beautifully redrawn.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 13th, 2013 08:50 pm
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What was an original or very early Kunst-Comptoir deck that sold on eBay:



And an advertisement for the deck (discovered by Helen Riding):

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