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 Posted: Mon Aug 18th, 2008 02:22 pm
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Oooo, so happy to see a work-in-progress section!
And I'll take the plunge and be the first one in the pool...

I began working on the Little Window Tarot in the summer of 2006. It is based on the Tarot de Marseilles, and my plan is to create the Major Arcana only. I have 6 cards left to go (and one of those, Temperance, is almost complete). My fascination with Tarot centers mainly on its historical origins and on the abundance of exquisite art it has inspired. When I was looking for a long term project that would get me back into drawing after many years, a Tarot deck seemed like the perfect idea.

Here is one of the cards:

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Last edited on Sat Apr 3rd, 2010 12:05 am by Little Window

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A great idea for a topic, and a wonderful start to it...:ro

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Very impressive Little Window.  It leaps out and touches my heart.

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I like looking at them (almost) all together.  There's a visual flow.

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Glad you decided to get back to drawing if this is the result!

I particularly love the Death card...

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What can i say other than "one more to look out for and add to my list"

Great images you've created very individual and powerful

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I really love this deck so far! It's soft and beautifully colored and whistful, and I adore it.

I am really looking forward to seeing all the designs together!

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Hello Mr. la-luna, Nicole and Chronata,
Thank you all for your kind words!

Things are coming along nicely with Temperance and the Emperor...all the Olympics coverage has given me a good excuse to be parked in front of the TV for long stretches of time...which coincidentally is where my drawing table is... ;)

However, working on the Emperor has caused me to haul out the Empress for comparison...I'm sorry to say I really don't like that drawing. It is the result of several bad starts, and I'm thinking now I might try again (after all the other cards are done). It just looks too complicated and her expression is odd. Sigh.

Thanks again everyone, for all your encouragement!

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About the Empress.  I love the flowy lines of that card.

As for her expression:  What is the relationship between the emperor and empress?

There's a  film version of Beowulf  (actors images are computer enhanced so they look like animation--don't know what you call it, but I found it visually disturbing).  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf_(2007_film)

The king and queen have a bad marriage due mostly to his being a jackass.  In several scenes, as he's just being his own annoying self-important self, the queen gets this funny look on her face--a combination of long-suffering boredom, worry, and constipation :D 

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debra wrote:
About the Empress.  I love the flowy lines of that card.

As for her expression:  What is the relationship between the emperor and empress?

There's a  film version of Beowulf  (actors images are computer enhanced so they look like animation--don't know what you call it, but I found it visually disturbing).  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf_(2007_film)

The king and queen have a bad marriage due mostly to his being a jackass.  In several scenes, as he's just being his own annoying self-important self, the queen gets this funny look on her face--a combination of long-suffering boredom, worry, and constipation :D 


LOL, Debra!
I think you nailed her expression perfectly...but I'd prefer that my empress have more of a look of serene power...that is one big issue I have with the card.

Plus the ship has already sailed on redrawing her...I am now working on a new Empress side by side with the Emperor card. I promise to keep the lines "flowy" and simplifying the composition should even help emphasize that.

In the meantime, the original card remains intact. It will be interesting to see how a few small changes affect the result.

Thanks for the comments,
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They do flow wonderfully together like a story... Very cool!

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Bat Chicken wrote:
They do flow wonderfully together like a story... Very cool!


Thanks Bat Chicken!

Doesn't look like Temperance will be finished until after I get back from vacation (leaving this weekend)...I got distracted by starting the Empress over again. But I am on a roll...shouldn't be too much longer.

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Just got back from a week at the beach and managed to find the energy to finish my Temperance card (see attached). She actually looks a lot like me (except I haven't been that thin for a very long time).

Thanks for looking!
:) Little Window

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Wow, lots of movement in this card! I like the twistiing posture. The idea of staying balanced in motion is very yoga (along with the sari-ish gown), and I like how her body movement echoes the twists in the water. And the moon halo!

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Thanks Debra! This has turned out to be one of my favorite cards in the deck. I like how the landscape turned out...lots of subtle color going on. As I was working on it, I was thinking about Gustave Baumann prints, and that seems to have come through.

Here is a picture of me working on the new Empress card...OnePotato took it to test the camera which was acting up. You can see the unfinished Emperor on the rocking chair:
http://members.aol.com/fiveoakleaves/little_window/working.jpg

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Ah, I was wondering how big you're working.  Nice pic.

We have a Gustav Baumann print!  http://www.bendbungalow.com/images/baupinesgc.jpg  The colors are sublime.

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Love the way you've run echoes of shape throughout the image - the edges of her wings/the wings of her hair/the bottom of the left-hand vessel/that light on her neck/the hills; the moon with the top of her head and the shape of the vessels; the twist in her body/the water/leaves of the dynamic little plants. Judging from the bottom of the painting, you've built the paint up in layers, which explains the depth/subtlety of the colour and the way the changes pull the eye across and around the figure. A thought: have you tried bringing the lower part of that right wing (her left wing) down so that it covers the hill, yet is behind her dress? I think it might flow into the twist nicely, but I could easily be completely wrong...:cool:

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Ditto to everything that has been said, but even more so, I love the complete lack of fear you show in doing your work which gives it its wonderful creative originality.  No fear of failure + no fear of success = genius.  Wonderful.

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debra wrote:

We have a Gustav Baumann print!  http://www.bendbungalow.com/images/baupinesgc.jpg  The colors are sublime.


Hi Debra,
Wow...how cool that you have a Baumann print! But I can't get the link to work...
:?

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goldenweb wrote:
A thought: have you tried bringing the lower part of that right wing (her left wing) down so that it covers the hill, yet is behind her dress? I think it might flow into the twist nicely, but I could easily be completely wrong...:cool:

Pen 


Hi Pen,
Thanks for looking so closely. I enjoy letting shapes repeat themselves, and it helps to make multiple pencil sketches before finalizing a card design.

I particularly appreciate your suggestion about the wing. I was never satisfied with how this part of the drawing resolved itself, but I was so protective of my little landscape that it never occurred to me to continue the wing over the hill. I think that will be the perfect way to solve the problem...and the nice thing about oil pastel is that it is very forgiving when you want to make changes or additions.

I'll leave it like this for a bit while I finish the other cards I've got in progress...then I'll give it a try for sure. THANK YOU for the suggestion!

:) Little Window

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mythos wrote:
Ditto to everything that has been said, but even more so, I love the complete lack of fear you show in doing your work which gives it its wonderful creative originality. No fear of failure + no fear of success = genius. Wonderful.

mythos


Hi Mythos,
OH MY GOD I have so much fear and trepidation with regards to this project you have no idea! OnePotato will laugh when he reads your post....

LOL

This whole project is an exercise in overcoming fear. I read a WONDERFUL book last year that I highly recommend: ART & FEAR: Observations on the Perils (and Rewards) of Artmaking, by David Bayles and Ted Orland. These guys really understand what an artist goes through when they attempt the daunting task of making art. And they have very helpful, practical suggestions for accomplishing things despite this fear. Like DOING WORK, every day, no matter what. (This part I have not been so successful at, clearly.) It's out of print, but it is not hard to find a copy for sale on the internet.

I'm glad it at least LOOKS like I'm fearless (lol). And sorry to spoil the illusion...but I truly think fear is one of the biggest hurdles facing all artists. And it's really nice to have this forum to share work and get encouragement to keep going....

Well, back to work for me...
:) Little Window

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Little Window, it's so nice to hear that having an audience that is near, and yet so far, helps inspire you to keep going with your tarot art.

What you're saying about artists' fear--that's the same kind of advice given to writers.  "Just do it, keep doing it...."

Sorry about the link--try these:

http://www.bendbungalow.com/images/baupinesgc.jpg
http://i22.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/a4/18/f1_1.JPG

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Little Window wrote: ...I was so protective of my little landscape...

I know that feeling well! And it's true that oil pastels are forgiving, but you could make the alteration on a separate scrap of paper and just try placing it over the hills before doing anything permanent - that way you needn't risk changing your landscape if you find you prefer the original...:ro

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Little Window wrote: mythos wrote:
Ditto to everything that has been said, but even more so, I love the complete lack of fear you show in doing your work which gives it its wonderful creative originality. No fear of failure + no fear of success = genius. Wonderful.

mythos


Hi Mythos,
OH MY GOD I have so much fear and trepidation with regards to this project you have no idea! OnePotato will laugh when he reads your post....

LOL

This whole project is an exercise in overcoming fear. I read a WONDERFUL book last year that I highly recommend: ART & FEAR: Observations on the Perils (and Rewards) of Artmaking, by David Bayles and Ted Orland. These guys really understand what an artist goes through when they attempt the daunting task of making art. And they have very helpful, practical suggestions for accomplishing things despite this fear. Like DOING WORK, every day, no matter what. (This part I have not been so successful at, clearly.) It's out of print, but it is not hard to find a copy for sale on the internet.

I'm glad it at least LOOKS like I'm fearless (lol). And sorry to spoil the illusion...but I truly think fear is one of the biggest hurdles facing all artists. And it's really nice to have this forum to share work and get encouragement to keep going....

Well, back to work for me...
:) Little Window


Yes, it does look fearless.  I think that it is time to get that book too:ro!

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mythos wrote:Yes, it does look fearless.


Mythos,
Thanks...to me, that is quite a compliment and something I never expected to hear. I think I'm going to make a little sign that says "Fearless" and keep it near my work space!
Little Window

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Hey there LittleWindow, I just thought to ask--is the horizontal panel across the top of each card intended as a space for a number or name?

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Hi Debra,
The band across the top will have a number in it. The final design also includes a taller band across the bottom for the name, but I am going to add that in on all the cards at the end, so that they look consistent across the deck (the number areas are all different, in colors that match the cards).

Haven't figured out the typography yet...I want to do something by hand that will visually match the drawing style.

I've had a temporary setback with the emperor (yesterday I erased his entire head) but I am planning to work more on it today (it's finally the weekend!)...

:) Little Window

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Off With His Head--well some people are improved that way, eh?

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debra wrote:
Off With His Head--well some people are improved that way, eh?


LOL...I wish I'd taken a photo before I drew in the new head...it was pretty funny!

I've finished the "new, improved" Empress card...here is a side-by-side comparison. The new one is on the right...I simplified the layout by eliminating a lot of extraneous details, I slimmed down her football player shoulders, and I simplified the green tapestry behind her:

(edited to remove old, defunct links)

:) Little Window

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Wow, what a difference. Totally different feel.

Pregnant, too, eh?

I'd like to see how she sits besides her hubby. :D

More thoughts:  the new Empress is more refined and more parallel to the look of Justice and the Papess.   I did like the lily of the valley flag and how it folded in visually with the embellishments on the archway but I agree it was pretty crowded in there. Here I like the simplicity of her throne and her body posture...also coloration of her gown and skin. She looks much more "at ease" (less frazzled and a better hairdresser!). 

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Hi all,
It's been awhile, but I've gotten back to work and only have a few cards to go now!
Here is The Magician...The Emperor will be posted next!

LW

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These are lovely! Can't wait to see the Emperor.

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(I wrote my reactions to this card to post at Aeclectic and hope you don't mind if I add them here as well)



I like the way the figure, his jaunty hat, and the table all intersect with the architecture behind him. The criss-cross colors and shading is interesting: red sleeve, red leg, red shoe; blue sleeve, blue leg, blue shoe, yes--and also, the center arch dark at top and light at bottom, with the two adjacent arches' shading reversed. How could that happen in the "real" world? And although that clever table extends out of the frame, it still seems impossible that such a piece of furniture could be stable. I love this. The plant between his legs is a green flame. And while perfectly clear, most of what's on his table is a complete mystery.

I also love this (despite and because) the Magician looks just like I guy I used to date. Same sexy hair, manly jaw, limpid eyes and stylish dress. That guy was a little bit magical and a whole lot con man

Thanks, Little Window! I'm so glad you've kept on with these lovely and interesting cards!

 

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Thanks zoog and debra!
And yes, this guy is definitely a con man...

I've attached The Emperor here. Architecturally he sits in the same space as The Empress, with similar archways and banner.

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'tis good to see more images posted, Little Window - they all have a lovely feel to them too, each so individual and full of character...:ro


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So happy to see new cards here dear :ok
and they look (as all the others) fantastic and a real continuety and whole with the rest bravo :ro

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Where did you meet these people, Little Window?  I had a boss with just that attitude.

I like the little crenelated castle walls on the banner.

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I often watch a deck in progress with held breath .. waiting for the other shoe to drop and find the next cards are awful or the spirit of the deck has somehow been lost or whatever... not these!!


Rock on!!!

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Ooh! I hadn't seen the new cards!

 Really lovely!

It's always a thrill to see the progress of a deck! And these are really coming along beautifully!

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Thanks so much Goldenweb, Mr. la-luna, debra, nicole and Chronata!
It's so encouraging to have folks to share the cards with as they are finished...if keeps me going!

debra wrote:
Where did you meet these people, Little Window? I had a boss with just that attitude.

debra, these characters just seem to show up. Sometimes (like in the case of the first emperor!) I trade them in for the next bloke that comes along, but usually they just appear...

nicole wrote:
I often watch a deck in progress with held breath .. waiting for the other shoe to drop and find the next cards are awful or the spirit of the deck has somehow been lost or whatever... not these!!

nicole, I'm so encouraged to hear you say that! I've been working on these for several years now, and I personally see so many differences between how the early cards were done and these latest ones. The earlier ones seem a bit simpler and quicker. So I'm so glad to hear the spirit is still there and it's holding together for others.

Next up on the drawing board, The World...

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Question for you all. OP and I are currently debating whether I should title the cards in French or in English. Thoughts or preferences?

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I'm trying to decide if these people live in England or France.  (Surely not the US.)

How do you think of them?  When you were making them, were you thinking with a title?


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I think French would be nice. Might make them stand out even more, and they really are quite striking. They have a "Renaissance" feel to them, I think French titles would look very well.

So, that's my .02. ;)

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Little Window wrote:
Question for you all. OP and I are currently debating whether I should title the cards in French or in English. Thoughts or preferences?


Tough question but seeing they have that specific style that reminds me of France during the renaissance period (or even Italian...)

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Hmmm...I'd been thinking French would be nice too. Although I still want the name of the deck to be in English. OP says that's not a problem...I can name my deck whatever I like! :)

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i liked your deck.
especially the simplicity and creativity part.
good luck to you:ok

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For your consideration, The World.
This is a card I avoided for a very long time....lots of difficulties with this one.
I hope you like it!
LW

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 Posted: Fri Apr 16th, 2010 03:48 am
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nicole
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Love it. And the window seems very North African... so French titles would be nice..

my two sou :bl

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 Posted: Fri Apr 16th, 2010 03:46 pm
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Like :)

It's different from the others in that the dancer figure is a much smaller presence on the card, as the central figure, than the others.

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Thanks Nicole and Sebille!

Sebille wrote:
Like :)
It's different from the others in that the dancer figure is a much smaller presence on the card, as the central figure, than the others.


The Star card is similar in scale...one of the things I struggled with is how different The World card in the Marseille deck looks in composition to all the others. I wanted to find a way to make the card fit in the family. I will have to post an updated group shot this weekend, so you can see the whole set....

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