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 Posted: Wed Feb 20th, 2013 03:57 pm
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AdamMcLean
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Some years ago a colleague told me of the source in
a novel, for the emblematic sequences in the Minors of
Pamela Colman Smith's and A.E. Waite's Tarot which followed aspects of the narrative in that novel.
Sadly, my memory had let me down and I cannot recall the novel nor its author.
Can anyone refresh my memory, I cannot seem to find the reference ?

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 Posted: Sat Feb 23rd, 2013 08:44 am
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Dear Adam,
if I remember correctly, you can find wath you search in The Encyclopedia of Tarot, Vol. 3

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Dear Adam,
if I remember correctly, you can find wath you search in The Encyclopedia of Tarot, Vol. 3

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Hello Adam,
The only Novel I can recall about Tarot is not about the Minors of Pamela Colman Smith's cards.
It is called 'The Castle of Crossed Destinies' by Italo Calvino. Published in English in 1976 and uses Illustrations from TDM and Visconti-Sforza decks.
There may be one published later that I do not know about.

Robalong :?

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The Greater Trumps is interesting, too, but not what Adam is looking for ;)

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Hi all!
I reply to Robalong's post.
In addition to Italo Calvino's book, there are numerous literary works based on the Tarot. I talked about these works in a chapter (Tarot in Literature) of my book "History of the Tarot" (2010).

Two of my fantasy novels, published by Lo Scarabeo (1988) and ArabaFenice (2012) are based on two different decks: Tarot of the Gnomes and Tarot of the Elves. About this see the blogpage
http://ilmontedeifolletti.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/il-monte-dei-folletti-scheda-del-libro/

Also, I have long been in preparation a series of short stories based on the illustrations of the Rider-Waite Tarot designed by Pamela "Pixie", but I do not know yet when it will be finished :sd

Giordano Berti

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Roppo might know ?

How nice to see you here, Signor Berti !

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Thank you Roppo!
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I'm not roppo - but it IS good to see you !

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Hi, gregory, hi giordanoberti!

And all I can say is, "Sorry , I've no idea"...

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http://home.comcast.net/~lucizain/tarlit.html
If it is not on here.....then it is rather obscure

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From someone on another forum where I asked:

I don't know about a novel, but Mary K. Greer has discovered that the Minors illustrate the Masonic legend of Hiram Abiff and also Robert de Boron's version of the Grail legend.

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Mary Greer recently gave a seminar on this theme in Australia.


http://globalspiritualstudies.com/shop/presentations/tarot/mary-k-greer/secrets-and-sources-of-the-rider-waite-smith-minor-arcana/

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A bit more someone posted that MAY help:

Isn't there a novel each for the Major and Minor Arcana of the Navigators of the Mystic Sea deck written by Julia Turk the deck's creator?


Also a link which may or may not...

http://home.comcast.net/~lucizain/tarlit.html

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That's right. Turk was writing a trilogy as a chartable (latitude and longitude) voyage through the pips, courts and majors. Physical voyage, spiritual voyage.

I hope Adam doesn't mind that I link to the thread on Aeclectic Tarot: http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?p=1215724&highlight=Turk#post1215724

Turk was a sailor (I got the story from a mutual friend). She kept the copyright to her deck and the accompanying book, sold the deck herself, and put the book on disk. I read the first part of the first volume of her novel. Her web site is gone and I don't know what's become of her.

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The books are available on amazon ! Much to my surprise. (I only bothered to look after reading the thread debra linked...)

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Hmmmm...am I being dense?
In 1997 I purchased the NTMS and a book that goes along with it. ISBN 1- 57281-023-8 Are we all talking about the same thing/book?
You know how you have secret decks, that ONLY you have and it is difficult to talk about them in a group, because ONLY you have that deck. I have several secret decks...They are not the same decks that say, US Games sell to you. I just know this..intuitivly...even Gregory does not have them..Heheheehe.
Robalong

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Hi Robalong ;)

Julia Turk later wrote a three-volume novel voyage through the pips, courts and majors of her deck. She is a sailor & I believe also a boatbuilder. The voyage is chartable by latitude and longitude. Based on reading part of the first novel, I would say her major talent lies in the visual arts.

I purchased some fabric prints of her cards. A mutual friend had framed some with elaborate decorative matting and framing (see pics). Mine are sitting in a drawer waiting for me to devise something to do with them.

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Last edited on Sat Mar 2nd, 2013 04:44 am by debra

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And more.

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Someone has suggested the Llewellyn 2006 Tarot Reader... in which I gather::

Mary Greer lists her stories associated with the Minor Arcana.

Cups - the story of Joseph of Arimathea
Wands - the story of Perceval
Pentacles - the story of Freemasonry
Swords - the story of a) Galahad's failure to bring the Grail back to the world, b)the unbelievers in Joseph of Arimethea's band who were banished and c) the failure within Masonry to understand the deeper significance of the story of the Master Builder who is killed by his jealous brethren

Each story covers Ace through Ten of the particular suit.

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Here's an update on the link that Adam provided for anyone interested in ordering the Mary Greer recorded lecture:
http://globalspiritualstudies.com/presentations/mary-k-greer/secrets-and-sources-of-the-rider-waite-smith-minor-arcana/

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I did get a copy of these talks but I found the argument presented there quite unconvincing.

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