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 Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2010 03:52 pm
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Attached is another pic showing the Blushing Fool and the High Priestess (don't know whether to call her Blushing, but she is)

Both the regular Fool and High Priestess and blushing versions are attached.

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 Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2010 03:59 pm
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Sumada wrote:
are either of these Fools blushing? I'd never heard about that before...


Hi Sumada, :hp

Based on your pix, I would say the one on the right is Blushing but not the one on the left.

Note how the one on the right has slightly darker leggings? I have also noticed this on my Blushing Fool.

My "regular" Fool has regular-colored leggings that are not darker.

Someone else may say differently - that's just me and I have never seen a Pam B, so I am no expert. That is just from looking at your pix.

Oh, and by the way, just WOW at the way the red color pops on your Pam B! :m

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 Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2010 08:15 pm
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Sumada wrote: Demian, are either of these Fools blushing? I'd never heard about that before...

Hi Sumada! ~missy's images really present the differences with the best clarity... I'm sure there's a technical name for the printing styles, but Blushing and Cream Faced just work for me ~ and for the most part it's mainly an easy reference point. My collection is comprised at 29% Blushing Fools, variously from Blue Box, Weiser, and USG editions. I'm comfortable saying that's probably a fair representation, all things considered.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 12:18 am
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Hi Demian,

Is the Cream-faced Fool another name for just the "regular" Fool that appears on most of the RWS decks?

Thankee. :hp

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missy wrote: Is the Cream-faced Fool another name for just the "regular" Fool that appears on most of the RWS decks?

"Cream Faced" is an honorary title for Non-Blushing Fools
but not the modern versions which are flat, green, putrid.
 
In "Macbeth" (knock wood, break a leg) a Servant enters
and Big Mac, having a bad day, confronts him angrily...
 

The devil damn thee black, thou cream-faced loon!
Where got’st thou that goose look?

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 Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 04:32 am
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The nice thing about the Weisers is you know it's a very early edition, early to mid '70s. With US Games the only way to really tell is if you have the reprint number from the booklet. :D

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 Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 06:25 pm
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© 1971 U.S. Games applies to the LWB ~ edited and with an introduction by Stuart R. Kaplan. The text of the LWB has never really changed, though it went through many editions and the cover address and advertising in the back was often revised.

© 1971 U.S. Games was added to the Pamela Colman Smith Tarot in 1975.


Oddly enough...

...a careful reading of A.E. Waite's Key to the Tarot 1910 (revised as The Pictorial Key to the Tarot in 1911) will show that Kaplan significantly "edits" Waite's version of things, especially the Ancient Celtic Method (in many truly curious ways).

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 Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 08:19 pm
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Demian Brennan-Gould wrote:
missy wrote: Is the Cream-faced Fool another name for just the "regular" Fool that appears on most of the RWS decks?

"Cream Faced" is an honorary title for Non-Blushing Fools
but not the modern versions which are flat, green, putrid.
 
In "Macbeth" (knock wood, break a leg) a Servant enters
and Big Mac, having a bad day, confronts him angrily...
 

The devil damn thee black, thou cream-faced loon!
Where got’st thou that goose look?


How delightful! It shall be a long while before that image of the "cream-faced loon" leaves my memory ... :m what a wonderful association!

I think I may have just received my first true Cream-faced Fool in a pocket-sized German RWS. :ce Year unknown, but vintage. No LWB. I suspect maybe early 80s but I am no good with this sort of thing; only because the cards have a very slight sheen which I really like! :rr It is a charming little deck! :c

If anyone can help me place the year, in German on the box top and bottom it says:

Original
Waite Tarot
Vertrieb: Königsfurt Verlag
D-24796 Klein Königsförde

It is a blue box (tuckbox) and The World is on the front with a green wreath. It says "WAITE TAROT" on front of box. The backs have a cross on a dark blue background. I looked on Holly's site for the back but it isn't there.

The cross is shades of yellow and gold with a red flower (rose?) in the center of the cross, with small green leaves surrounding the flower. The vertical part of the cross is slightly longer than the horizontal part of the cross, but not by much. Each end of the cross has three rounded areas which look almost like clubs in a suit of playing cards. (Rounded ends, three of them on each of the four cross points.)

Hope that description made sense. Any identification of this deck so I can narrow down when it was made, and who the publisher was, would be appreciated! :m

I DO LOVE it. Very perfecly sized, sits well in the hand, lovely card stock. No copyright on the cards. And a Cream-faced Fool, to boot! :tt

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 Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:52 pm
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Here is an image of my vintage German pocket RWS in a blue tuckbox:

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And now for images of my Samuel Weiser yellow box.

Here is the LWB. :m

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 Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:55 pm
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Here is the Weiser box.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:56 pm
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And here are the cards:

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